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> >I bet your Mom has a copy. Listen to it and you can’t help but get >excited about ways to live a longer life. That tape is the New Vision > For a different side of this colloidal mineral story, you might want > to read the article by Dr. George Malkmus on my web site. Just choose > "The Word on Supplements" from the menu on the home page.
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> Dave, > I am a rep for New Vision. My sponsor has 10 years of experience in > network marketing. It is his career, no other jobs. He recently dropped > what he was doing with his other company to focus on New Vision 100%. > He’s that excited. His experience has led him to identify many "red > flags," none of which he is seeing with New Vision. Probably because the > company is run by a family that has 57 years combined experience in the > industry. > The products are high quality and very competively priced with grocery > and health food stores. Most of the product line is far superior to > anything you’ll find on store shelves. The products are working for me.
Everyone else says the same thing, of course. > If anyone has questions about New Vision or its products, I’m glad to > help in any way that I can. I am not a nutritionist, but I have > testimonials to share.
Yes. Please provide certificates from independent labs attesting to the purity and consistency of the products.
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Chet here is only plugging his own products at the expense of New Visions.
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>If anyone has questions about New Vision or its products, I’m glad to >help in any way that I can. I am not a nutritionist, but I have >testimonials to share.
Tim, I’d like to know your response to Rev. Malkmus’s charge in the article on my web site about the body being unable to absorb organic minerals? That’s why he recommends BarleyGreen, which contains minerals and vitamins that the body can, according to him, much more efficiently process and use than the inorganic minerals in the New Vision product. Somebody else, and I forget who but the owner of another company selling a mineral product, has produced a long article that says chelated minerals are the only minerals properly absorbed by the body. Who’s right here? Chet Day Editor, Health & Beyond To get your free subscription to my twice monthly HEALTH TIP Newsletter, packed with natural health and living food information, type SUBSCRIBE TIP in an email Enjoy brain-engaging and assumption-busting natural health articles: http://members.gnn.com/chetday/open.htm
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> Chet here is only plugging his own products at the expense of New > Visions.
New vision, old vision, it’s MLM vision at the consumer’s expense! — The World Bank, 1818 H St. NW, Washington DC 20433, U.S.A. http://www.worldbank.org +1(202)477-1234
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James is doing the same. Promoting his stuff at the expense of New Visions.
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Dave, I am a rep for New Vision. My sponsor has 10 years of experience in network marketing. It is his career, no other jobs. He recently dropped what he was doing with his other company to focus on New Vision 100%. He’s that excited. His experience has led him to identify many "red flags," none of which he is seeing with New Vision. Probably because the company is run by a family that has 57 years combined experience in the industry. The products are high quality and very competively priced with grocery and health food stores. Most of the product line is far superior to anything you’ll find on store shelves. The products are working for me. If anyone has questions about New Vision or its products, I’m glad to help in any way that I can. I am not a nutritionist, but I have testimonials to share. Tim Johnson (608) 278-0038
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>How do you know that?
In response to my earlier post: >>Jane, >>Not too long ago my sister sent me a tape called "Dead Doctors Don’t Lie". >> It presents facts that are astonishing about minerals and our lack of >>them with our modern eating habits. You know-fast food and the like. >One of the reasons that many of these "facts" are so astonishing is >that they are not true. That always helps.
You must have just started reading. Half a dozen people posted a lovely little debunking of Wallach’s tape. I can send you a copy if you want one. (I’m avoiding posting the whole thing again to save bandwidth.) These are my opinions only, but they’re almost always correct. "The difference between a printing press and a modern digital long- distance network is that the press produces money much more slowly." — Neil Kirby, Lucent Technologies
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>I bet your Mom has a copy. Listen to it and you can’t help but get >excited about ways to live a longer life. That tape is the New Vision >Marketing tool. I am also skeptical about Amway type deals, so I began >calling, listening and researching NV. So far I find nothing but a good >company, good products and if you want to share the information with your >friends(can’t be helped after listening to the tape) NV has all sorts of >help in that area for making a business out of it.
For a different side of this colloidal mineral story, you might want to read the article by Dr. George Malkmus on my web site. Just choose "The Word on Supplements" from the menu on the home page. Chet Day Editor, Health & Beyond To get your free subscription to my twice monthly HEALTH TIP Newsletter, packed with natural health and living food information, type SUBSCRIBE TIP in an email Enjoy brain-engaging and assumption-busting natural health articles: http://members.gnn.com/chetday/open.htm
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How do you know that? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – (DRoss11453) writes: >Jane, >Not too long ago my sister sent me a tape called "Dead Doctors Don’t Lie". > It presents facts that are astonishing about minerals and our lack of >them with our modern eating habits. You know-fast food and the like. >One of the reasons that many of these "facts" are so astonishing is >that they are not true. That always helps. Anyone > These are my opinions only, but they’re almost always correct. > "The difference between a printing press and a modern digital long- > distance network is that the press produces money much more slowly." > – Neil Kirby, Lucent Technologies
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The minerals New Vision uses are purchased from a company in Utah. These are the minerals Dr. Wallach speaks of in his tape, but New Vision has left off the last two minutes of the tape where Dr. Wallach speaks of the minerals from Clark’s Mine in Utah that has been manufacturing the product since the 20’s. Clark’s still sells the minerals and sells them to New Visions and Wallach’s company, Soaring Eagle. You can order directly from Clarks at (800) 228-0872. This is not a multi-marketing company. You just order and receive. I get no money for telling you or if you buy. Just have done a lot of research to find Clark’s Original Minerals. Wallach’s company may add something to theirs, but these are the original minerals. writes: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Jane, >Not too long ago my sister sent me a tape called "Dead Doctors Don’t Lie". > It presents facts that are astonishing about minerals and our lack of >them with our modern eating habits. You know-fast food and the like. >I bet your Mom has a copy. Listen to it and you can’t help but get >excited about ways to live a longer life. That tape is the New Vision >Marketing tool. I am also skeptical about Amway type deals, so I began >calling, listening and researching NV. So far I find nothing but a good >company, good products and if you want to share the information with your >friends(can’t be helped after listening to the tape) NV has all sorts of >help in that area for making a business out of it. >All I’ve done so far is research. My sister sent me some minerals but I >haven’t jumped on the bandwagon yet. Listen to the tape and get back to >me. >Sincerely >Dave Ross
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>Jane, >Not too long ago my sister sent me a tape called "Dead Doctors Don’t Lie". > It presents facts that are astonishing about minerals and our lack of >them with our modern eating habits. You know-fast food and the like.
One of the reasons that many of these "facts" are so astonishing is that they are not true. That always helps. These are my opinions only, but they’re almost always correct. "The difference between a printing press and a modern digital long- distance network is that the press produces money much more slowly." — Neil Kirby, Lucent Technologies
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Jane, Not too long ago my sister sent me a tape called "Dead Doctors Don’t Lie". It presents facts that are astonishing about minerals and our lack of them with our modern eating habits. You know-fast food and the like. I bet your Mom has a copy. Listen to it and you can’t help but get excited about ways to live a longer life. That tape is the New Vision Marketing tool. I am also skeptical about Amway type deals, so I began calling, listening and researching NV. So far I find nothing but a good company, good products and if you want to share the information with your friends(can’t be helped after listening to the tape) NV has all sorts of help in that area for making a business out of it. All I’ve done so far is research. My sister sent me some minerals but I haven’t jumped on the bandwagon yet. Listen to the tape and get back to me. Sincerely Dave Ross
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>Well, it all depends on what it is your mother bought. You can get lots of >things for $100, and if you’re just getting "some" you might want to look >at another brand that basically sells the same stuff at half the cost you >get with a company like New Vision or Life Plus.
Thanks for the reply. My concern is that she’s paying a lot of money for something she could just schlepp down to the local WalMart to buy. Personally, I’m skeptical of anyplace that only sells by mailorder. It’s too much like scam art to me. Jane
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I apologize if this is an old subject, but I’m fairly new to this newsgroup. My mother just bought (for about $100) some supplements from someone called New Vision, International. I looked on the web and there is a ton of people out there selling it. It looks like an Amway type arrangement with dealers enticing you to turn dealer as well as to buy the product. My mother has no intention of becoming a dealer. She’s retired. My aunt has taken this stuff for a couple months and swears her skin is better, age spots have faded, she has more energy, etc. etc. So now I’m somewhat interested, but I’m also a consummate skeptic. I’d like to know if anyone has experience with either the organization or the products. You may email me directly or post on the list. Thanks. Jane Bergen
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Well, it all depends on what it is your mother bought. You can get lots of things for $100, and if you’re just getting "some" you might want to look at another brand that basically sells the same stuff at half the cost you get with a company like New Vision or Life Plus. I don’t sell or distribute any products but I was, and still kind of am, looking for the best supplement my money can buy. I haven’t ordered anything yet, but will be next week. VitaNet will be my first stop, and I’ll be trying out "their" Solaray MV supplement. I suggest you look around for good prices. Darius
: I apologize if this is an old subject, but I’m fairly new to this : newsgroup. : My mother just bought (for about $100) some supplements from someone : called New Vision, International. I looked on the web and there is a : ton of people out there selling it. It looks like an Amway type : arrangement with dealers enticing you to turn dealer as well as to buy : the product. My mother has no intention of becoming a dealer. She’s : retired. : My aunt has taken this stuff for a couple months and swears her skin : is better, age spots have faded, she has more energy, etc. etc. So now : I’m somewhat interested, but I’m also a consummate skeptic. I’d like : to know if anyone has experience with either the organization or the : products. : You may email me directly or post on the list. Thanks. : Jane Bergen
